Subject: Enough already Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 13:19:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Halleen <halleen@Mercury.mcs.com> Alright, alright! It's time to put and end to this. I didn't intend to come to this list and start insulting anyone. I was going to just lurk for a while, ask occasional questions, and decide whether or not to stick with Imagine. I've only recently had access to the internet, and I'm learning a lot by listening to my peers around the world. One thing it's exposed me to is a lot of discussion about other software, so it's got me thinkin'. I haven't had the chance to push 3.0 around, but I was dissapointed with what I had seen so far, which was that the attitude of the program and programmers was the same. Someone asked a question about freelancing (I didn't start the thread) and I snapped. Why be so sensitive? This thread is declining (as many heated threads do) into attacks on the methods and rhetoric of the combatants instead of the meat of the issue. When I finish my current project, I'll hopefully have time to fully dig in to 3.0 and see if I was wrong. I've been saving Lesk's and others comments on Bones and plan to give it all a good workout. I'll be fair, but I won't hesitate to be critical if it deserves it. Imagine is impressive for it's price, yes. What I'm saying is that I think I'm ready to pay more for a major upgrade in power (and complexity). (Yes, this contradicts what I said about paying more for Forge. I've changed my mind. I think I'll buy it, cause it'll be worth it.) I've yelled myself into a corner I never intended to go. All I want is information. So far no one has come forward to admit they use Imagine in a high level situation. That's all I wanted to know. That doesn't mean I hate art or students, God no. I love that software like Imagine is available to so many people. My focus is on the software, not the users. If my comments about hobbyists were taken as put-downs, I apologize. I just don't feel that Impulse has my interests at heart. Part of the problem may be that I haven't told them what I need. I'm just now getting vocal about it. I have a lot of time invested in Imagine, and if I can learn more about it from you all, then maybe I don't need to ditch it. That would be great for me, because it will take a long time to learn a new package. I'll go back to lurking, educate myself some more, and when the time is right, I'll add my comments to the Imagine 4 survey. Peace. Michael Halleen -=> RETURN TO CONTENTS!<=-